Kundi stresses need to strengthen democracy

Kundi stresses need to strengthen democracy

Bilawal calls for tripartite dialogue with neighbours to combat terrorism

Says recent attack targeting foreigners serves as reminder that menace is spreading tentacles again

Eight more ministers of Sindh cabinet sworn in

Eight more ministers of Sindh cabinet sworn in

Aseefa Bhutto sworn in as MNA

Aseefa Bhutto Zardari sworn in MNA

Aseefa Bhutto's victory in NA-207 challenged in SHC

PTI candidate challenges the PPP leader's victory in NA-207

PPP's Sharif Khan Khilji defects to PTI

PPP’s Sharif Khan Khilji defects to PTI

PPP's Khurshid Shah asks govt to take criticism constructively

PPP's Khurshid Shah asks govt to take criticism constructively

Balochistan CM, PPP chairman discuss provincial affairs, welfare initiatives

Balochistan CM, PPP chairman discuss provincial affairs, welfare initiatives

Sindh governor urges PPP, others to initiate talks to improve security situation

Sindh governor urges PPP, others to initiate talks to improve security situation

Bilawal offers Eid prayers in Garhi Khuda Bakhsh

Bilawal offers Eid prayers in Garhi Khuda Bakhsh

PPP seeks support for Senate chairman election

Gilani is the party candidate for the coveted slot

MQM-P blasts Sindh govt over alarming rise in Karachi street crimes

Says criminals can’t act without police backing

Bilawal pays homage to ZAB on 45th death anniversary

Bilawal pays homage to ZAB on 45th death anniversary

PTI made Aseefa Bhutto's victory as MNA controversial: Ghani

Saeed Ghani accuses PTI of controversy on Aseefa Bhutto's victory

PPP's Aseefa Bhutto Zardari secures NA-207 seat unopposed

PPP’s Aseefa Bhutto Zardari secures NA-207 seat unopposed

ECP notifies successful candidates in Senate by-elections

ECP notifies successful candidates in Senate by-elections

Senate nominations - Ex-PM Kakar, Mohsin Naqvi spring a surprise

Senate election will held on April 2 in National, four provincial assemblies and Senate

PPP, JUI-F forge alliance for Senate elections

PPP, JUI-F forge alliance for Senate elections

PPP leaders, workers celebrate victory of Asif Ali Zardari

They distribute sweets and dance in jubilation

CM Sarfraz Bugti thanks National Party for voting for Zardari

CM Sarfraz Bugti thanks National Party for voting for presidential candidate Zardari

Nawaz for swift action on cabinet formation and executing PML-N manifesto

Tarar says names to be announced within 24 hours of presidential election

SC verdict on Bhutto reference will enable democracy to progress: Bilawal

Says history is set to be corrected after 44 years

PML-N becomes largest party in National Assembly with 123 seats

PML-N becomes largest party in National Assembly with 123 seats

PPP delegation assures PM Shehbaz of cooperation for economic stability

PPP leaders congratulate Shehbaz Sharif on assuming PM office

Supreme Court reserves verdict on Bhutto reference

During the proceedings, the chief justice-led bench acquired the services of nine amicus curiae

Murad Ali Shah claims Asif Zardari would secure presidential seat

Local government is working independently in Sindh, he asserts

PPPP has nothing to do with senator Tangi or his resolution, clarifies Nayyar Bukhari

PPPP has nothing to do with senator Tangi or his resolution, clarifies Nayyar Bukhari

ANP throws weight behind Zardari for presidential election

ANP throws weight behind Zardari for presidential election

Senate to debate resolution for social media curbs among other agenda items on March 4

Senate to debate resolution for social media curbs among other agenda items on March 4

Bilawal wants missing persons issue resolved through parliamentary committee

Bilawal wants missing persons issue resolved through parliamentary committee

PPP to woo MQM-P ahead of presidential election, says Sindh CM

PPP to woo MQM-P ahead of presidential election, says Sindh CM

Nomination papers filed to get Shehbaz, Zardari into top offices for second terms

SIC has fielded Omar Ayub and Mahmood Khan Achakzai respectively to challenge the two

PPP nominates Sarfaraz Bugti for Balochistan CM role

Balochistan Assembly will elect the CM candidate on Saturday

Alvi is violating constitution, will face legal repercussions: Bilawal

Says all institutions will have to work within their constitutional domain

Rabbani berates President Alvi for violating constitution over new NA session

Rabbani berates President Alvi for violating constitution over new NA session

PPP's Shazia Marri calls president's delay in convening NA session 'abuse of power'

PPP's Shazia Marri calls president's delay in convening NA session 'abuse of power'

Sindh Assembly elects chief minister tomorrow

PPP fields Murad Ali Shah, MQM-P Ali Khurshidi

Consultations between PML-N, allies to form Punjab cabinet

PML-N nominates 20 candidates for minister

MPAs-elect from Balochistan meet Zardari, take up govt formation matters

Balochistan Assembly session would be convene on Feb 28

GDA announces protest against police crackdown on JUI

Says crackdown was akin to state terrorism

Sharjeel Inam sees PTI's letter to IMF bigger blunder than May 9 tragedy

PPP's Sharjeel terms PTI's writing letter to IMF big blunder than May 9

PPP, MQM-P candidates submit papers for Sindh Assembly's speaker, deputy speaker

Opposition parties are ineligible to field candidates for the speaker, deputy speaker slots

PML-N emerges leading party in National Assembly with 108 seats

ECP has yet to allot reserved seats to Sunni Ittehad Council

Bilawal names Murad Ali Shah for Sindh CM slot

Awais Shah, Anthony Naveed would be Sindh Assembly speaker, deputy speaker candidates, respectively

PPP starts considering names for constitutional positions

PPP starts considering names for constitutional positions

PML-N to hold party parliamentary session today

Matters related to government making in Punjab would be discussed

Announcement about deal on govt formation propels Pakistan stocks

KSE-100 Index gains 1.81pc as investor await Islamabad’s future line of action to revive economy

Senator Mushahid Hussain suggests Nawaz conciliation with PTI

He warned chaos will result into 1977 tragedy

Bilawal rejects power-sharing formula offered to PPP

Bilawal rejects power-sharing formula offered to PPP

PPP holds session for newly elected MPAs in Karachi tomorrow

PPP holds session for newly elected MPAs in Karachi tomorrow

PPP refuses to take ministries in coalition talks with PML-N

PPP refuses to take ministries in coalition talks with PML-N

Chief minister Balochistan would be from PPP: Asif Zardari

Government in Balochistan would be formed with the alliances

PML-N leaders against forming federal govt as Saad suggests PTI-PPP coalition

Says his party has no desire to wear ‘the crown of thorns’

PML-N, PPP coordination committees to hold third meeting today

The third joint session of the coordination committees of PML-N and PPP will be held today (Friday)

Shifting sands in Pakistan's political landscape

Shifting sands in Pakistan's political landscape

Newly-elected PPP MPA Abdul Aziz Junejo passes away

Abdul Aziz Junejo was elected MPA on PPP ticket from PS-80 in the February 8 polls.

PPP enjoys Sharifs' support for presidential office

A formal decision is expected in a day or two

PML-N, PPP engage in talks for coalition formation

PML-N, PPP engage in talks for coalition formation

Bilawal condemns Larkana shooting, expresses sorrow over deaths

Bilawal condemns Larkana shooting, expresses sorrow over deaths

Struggle for power in Centre and provinces intensifies as ECP announces final results

ECP announces results of National Assembly and provincial assemblies seats

Independents ride the wave of public support in poll outcome

Independents ride the wave of public support in poll outcome

Zardari casts vote in Nawabshah, Bilawal in Naudero

Zardari casts vote in Nawabshah, Bilawal in Naudero

Bilawal says his mandate can't be given to anyone else

Requests people to exercise their right to vote

PPP and JI - the two rivals in Karachi - question blocking communications on polling day

Saeed Ghani says the move can’t be justified; Naeemur Rehman says it’s pre-poll rigging

Controversial elections to fuel political instability, warns Kaira

Controversial elections to fuel political instability, warns Kaira

Bilawal mixes with commoners in Larkana streets

Bilawal mixes with commoners in Larkana streets

Bilawal seeks blessings at Garhi Khuda Bakhsh

Bilawal seeks blessings at Garhi Khuda Bakhsh

PPP will emerge victorious in general election: Kundi

Kundi affirmed the party's intention to forge a coalition government with allied parties.

Watchmen and peons are among Dadu polling staff

JUI-F Sindh chief says PPP Sind Assembly candidate in Shikarpur has acquired services of criminals

Bilawal accuses Nawaz of pressuring caretakers to skew ballot in his favour

Bilawal accuses Nawaz of pressuring caretakers to skew ballot in his favour

PML-N's Tarar, PPP's Misbah put on notice for flouting electoral code of conduct

PML-N’s Tarar, PPP’s Misbah put on notice for flouting electoral code of conduct

Zardari promises development projects for 'backward' Talagang

Zardari promises development projects for 'backward' Talagang

Tarar tells Bilawal that Lahore isn't a no-go area, PPP wants action against rival candidate

PML-N leader says PPP wants chaos in the city, trading of votes isn’t possible

Murad Ali Shah says MQM-P has become a dead horse

Former Sindh chief minister predicts PPP PPP will win 45- 50 seats in in the province

History in making, as MQM-P will support ANP's Shahi Sayed in Karachi on Feb 8

Two sides promise to work jointly in the interests of people and the city

Karachi rains enough to compare the performance: Shehbaz to Bilawal

Says massive PML-N rallies negated media narrative; blasts PTI for promoting unfounded allegations

PPP, ANP go for seat adjustment in Balochistan

Both parties agree on seat adjustment in Pishin

Maulana is expanding. Watch for him in Sindh

Feb 8 may help JUI-F claim that it is among the parties having roots across Pakistan

PPP, MQM-P trade barbs following deadly clash between workers

PPP, MQM-P trade barbs following deadly clash between workers

PPP is all set to hold power show in Mirpurkhas today

Bilawal will address at NA-211 and NA-212 constituencies

Child killed, three injured as PPP, MQM-P workers clash in Karachi

The incident occurred in New Karachi Sector 11-J area during the election campaign

Bilawal vows to block conspiracy to put Nawaz back in PM Office

Bilawal vows to block conspiracy to put Nawaz back in PM Office

Higher costs of living hit Pakistan election campaigns too

A person selling party flags says the business has been reduced to half when compared with last poll

PPP holds power show in Batkhela

Chairman Bilawal Bhutto and party leaders flex their political muscles in Malakand

Bilawal points finger at Nawaz Sharif for country's economic woes

Bilawal points finger at Nawaz Sharif for country’s economic woes

MQM-P and PPP trade accusations after the deadly Karachi incident

Mustafa Kamal sees attempt to ‘conquer Karachi’; Saeed Ghani cites return of ‘old tactics’

One killed in PPP-MQM-P workers' clash in Karachi

Heavy contingent of police and Rangers reached the spot and brought the situation under control.

Bilawal says majority of Pakistanis don't want to see someone becoming PM for fourth time

Bilawal says majority of Pakistanis don’t want to see someone becoming PM for fourth time

PPP is only true representative party of labourers and farmers, Aseefa Bhutto says

PPP is only true representative party of labourers and farmers, Aseefa Bhutto says

Is Bilawal scared of contesting from Karachi, asks JI's Hafiz Naeem

JI's Naeem says why Bilawal is avoiding to contest elections from Karachi

Debate challenge continues: Bilawal says 'yes' as Shehbaz talks about Sindh affairs

Bilawal invites Nawaz Sharif for debate and comparison of their party performance in the provinces

PPP unveils manifesto addressing poverty, inflation and unemployment

Sherry Rehman says country needs new thinking, intelligent leadership to tackle these challenges

Bilawal squarely blames PML-N, PTI for economic mess, polarising society

Bilawal squarely blames PML-N, PTI for economic mess, polarising society

PPP launches its manifesto for general elections 2024 aiming to end crises

Awami Muashi Muaida aims to end poverty, inflation and all problems

Bilawal extends open invitation for debate with Nawaz ahead of elections

Bilawal extends open invitation for debate with Nawaz ahead of elections

Bilawal takes a dig at PML-N, says Nawaz can no longer deceive people

Bilawal takes a dig at PML-N, says Nawaz can no longer deceive people

Zardari vows effective legislation for protection of minorities' rights

Former president says PPP chief Bilawal Bhutto's ten-point charter will reshape Pakistan's destiny

Bilawal hurls arrow at tiger during Gujrat gathering

The PPP chairman says 'tiger sucks blood of youth'

Ahsan Iqbal dares Bilawal Bhutto for Larkana-Narowal comparison

Tarar reminds PPP chairman of the days of mocking Takht-e-Lahore

MQM-P says PPP relying on London's call to boycott elections

Vows to save Pakistan and form govts in the villages of Sindh too

Election 2024: PPP to flex its muscles in Sahiwal today

PPP chairman Bilawal Bhutto Zardari will address the public gathering at 2:00pm.

Elections 2024: Saeed Ghani questions peaceful polls amid attacks on PPP offices

PPP asked the Election Commission to take stern action against the culprits

PPP seeks power by people, opponents by 'khalai makhluq', asserts Bilawal in Kot Addu rally

PPP seeks power by people, opponents by 'khalai makhluq', asserts Bilawal in Kot Addu rally

Petrol bomb attack on Bilawal's election camp: PPP writes letter to CEC

The attackers threw a petrol bomb at the gate of PPP election office in Satto Katla area in Lahore.

Former president warns of firm response to hostile intentions towards Pakistan

Says Pakistan desires fraternal ties with neighbours but stands ready to defend

Shehbaz says Pakistan reserves the right to defend, calls for peace

Khawaja Asif notes Tehran overstepped; Sherry Rehman feels message has been delivered

Khyber Pakhtunkhwa on the road to a fractured mandate

Peshawar Valley and Malakand will decide the ultimate winner

PPP workers will ensure Bilawal's victory in Punjab, says Zardari

PPP workers will ensure Bilawal's victory in Punjab, says Zardari

Aseefa Bhutto kicks off Bilawal's election campaign in Karachi

Asifa Bhutto runs Bilawal's election campaign in Karachi

We didn't think about the consequences of 'Kabul tea': Bilawal

Criticises the PTI govt for allowing the terrorists to resettle in Pakistan

Bilawal accuses PML-N of abandoning democracy

Complains PPP candidates from Punjab assigned different electoral symbols instead of the “arrow”

PPP's Wassan confident that Bilawal will form government in Centre

PPP's Wassan confident Bilawal will form government in Centre

PAT supports PPP in Lahore

PAT supports PPP in Lahore

Bilawal condoles demise of former governor Ch Sarwar's brother

Bilawal condoles demise of former governor Ch Sarwar’s brother

PTI submits requisition to convene Senate session

PTI submits requisition to convene Senate session

PPP prioritises people in polls, opponents lack a manifesto, says Bilawal

PPP chief says his opponents engaged in personal battles either to avoid jail or emerge from it

MQM-P names contestants from Karachi, leaves 15 national and provincial seats for allies

Likeminded parties will give final shape to Sindh seat adjustment formula later today

Bilawal committed to implementing party's pro-poor manifesto

Bilawal committed to implementing party’s pro-poor manifesto

ZAB's 'judicial murder': SC to resume hearing presidential reference after polls in Feb

ZAB’s ‘judicial murder’: SC to resume hearing presidential reference after polls in Feb

PPP to secure majority in Balochistan: Bugti

PPP to secure majority in Balochistan: Bugti

PTI chief faces prison because of his own mistakes: Bilawal

PTI chief faces prison because of his own mistakes: Bilawal

ZAB's 'judicial murder':SC resumes hearing of presidential reference today

ZAB's 'judicial murder': SC resumes hearing of presidential reference today

'Poll results will end uncertainty': caretaker PM on PML-N's preferential treatment

‘Poll results will end uncertainty’: caretaker PM on PML-N’s preferential treatment

PPP-P not in the race for 19 national, provincial constituencies from its stronghold Sindh

Seats in questions are both in urban and rural parts of the province

Elections on Feb 8 even if OIC passes resolution, says Bilawal

Elections on Feb 8 even if OIC passes resolution, says Bilawal

Zardari expresses confidence in PPP's potential to secure victory on Feb 8

Zardari expresses confidence in PPP's potential to secure victory on Feb 8

PPP submits response to SC in ZAB murder case

A response of 108 pages including Justice Nasim's interview has been submitted.

PPP celebrates party founder's birth anniversary with enthusiasm

PPP celebrates party founder’s birth anniversary with enthusiasm

Bilawal charts course for Pakistan's future in Lahore address

Encourages people to become his ambassadors, visit every household informing them about his promises

Senate resolution calling for delay in elections draws political parties' ire

PPP, PTI, JI dismiss resolution as ‘unacceptable’, ‘unconstitutional’

Bilawal vows to implement ZAB's manifesto to make country strong, prosperous

Bilawal vows to implement ZAB’s manifesto to make country strong, prosperous

Zulfikar Ali Bhutto's 96th birth anniversary today

Bhutto served as President of Pakistan from 1971 to 1973 and PM from 1973 to 1977

Zardari embarks on Multan tour ahead of elections

Zardari embarks on Multan tour ahead of elections

PPP asks ECP to exclude electoral symbols resembling 'arrow'

Party implores ECP to acknowledge risk of voter confusion

No govt without PPP, new year to bring political stability: Gilani

Says ECP responsible for free and fair polls; Calls for ‘equal level-playing field’ for everyone

Nomination papers of key leaders accepted

These include Nawaz, Shehbaz, Sirajul Haq, Sanjrani, Jahangir Tareen, Aleem Khan, Salman Akram Raja

Peshawar valley remains stumbling block to Khyber Pakhtunkhwa seat adjustment

JUI-F, PML-N, PPP and ANP want a united front against PTI in its stronghold

Bilawal calls for end to politics of hatred

No need to keep 17 federal ministries that consume Rs300 billion annually: Bilawal

Parties submit list of priority candidates on reserved seats

Parties submit list of priority candidates on reserved seats

ANP's Peshawar president Abidullah announces joining PPP

ANP's Peshawar president Abidullah announces joining PPP

Bilawal Bhutto set to submit nomination forms for NA 194 and NA 197

Bilawal Bhutto set to submit nomination forms for NA 194 and NA 197

Don't make the villain – PTI founding chairman – a hero: PPP

Sharjeel Memon says he is the person who has no respect for Constitution, wanted presidential system

Nayyar Bukhari anticipates political stability in Pakistan post-February 8

Nayyar Bukhari anticipates political stability in Pakistan post-February 8

Bilawal reiterates imperative to end politics of hatred, division

PPP chief says a united youth is key to defeating those involved in divisive politics

Bilawal announces PPP's central office-bearers

Senior leader Taj Haider appointed party’s central secretary general

PPP always steers country out of crises: Gilani

PPP restored constitution, Zardari surrendered presidential powers: Gilani

Bilawal stresses need for burying 'old-school politics' to fix economy

Bilawal stresses need for burying ‘old-school politics’ to fix economy

Zardari makes lofty promises for Balochistan's uplift

Balochistan is heart of the country, says Zardari

PPP won't make alliance with PTI: Zardari

Zardari wants prompt resolution of internal party differences

PPP departs from 'old-school politics', shifts election campaign focus to positivity

PPP departs from 'old-school politics', shifts election campaign focus to positivity

Bilawal leads crucial session focused on PPP manifesto, mass contact drive

Bilawal leads crucial session focused on PPP manifesto, mass contact drive

In run-up to polls, Zardari to embark on Turbat visit on Dec 18

In run-up to polls, Zardari to embark on Turbat visit on Dec 18

PPP won't tolerate delay in elections, says Kundi

PPP won’t tolerate delay in elections, says Kundi

PPP, IPP ready to become parties in elections case

PPP, IPP ready to become parties in elections case

PPP wants timely, free and fair elections, says Faisal Kundi

Urges CEC Raja to remove reservations of all political groups

Those who were part of Zia dictatorship should be exposed: Bilawal

Says Supreme Court has an opportunity to remove the stain

SC to hear the Bhutto affair on daily basis from next month -- 44 years after he was hanged

Chief Justice Isa expresses his regret over the delay; Proceedings adjourned till next month

'Political scientist' Zardari eyes prime ministerial bid

'Political scientist' Zardari eyes prime ministerial bid

Bilawal demands probe into holding talks with terrorists

Bilawal demands probe into holding talks with terrorists

Kaira opposes forced exclusion of political parties from political activities

Kaira opposes forced exclusion of political parties from political activities

PPP delegation to meet CEC Raja on Monday

PPP delegation to meet CEC Raja on Monday

Bilawal lashes out at rivals, says they're contesting polls for personal gain or legal evasion

Bilawal lashes out at rivals, says they’re contesting polls for personal gain or legal evasion

Bilawal advises Nawaz against aspiring to two-thirds majority

PPP chief challenges PML-N supremo to come through elections, not ‘selection'

ZAB's 'judicial murder': SC takes up presidential reference on Dec 12

Nine-member larger bench led by CJP Qazi Faez Isa to conduct proceedings

Bilawal wants to break free from traditional politics, promises jobs

He also emphasises party's commitment to Shaheed Benazir Bhutto's mission

Zardari, PPP leaders discuss political situation

Zardari, PPP leaders from Punjab, Balochistan discuss political situation

PPP chairman orders party leaders to accelerate preparations for elections

PPP chairman orders party leaders to accelerate preparations for elections

Bilawal condemns Peshawar blast

Bilawal condemns Peshawar blast

MQM-P sees Sindh caretakers as an extension of PPP, 'transplantations' in delimitations

Siddiqui says province has been divided politically, administratively, linguistically

Bilawal urges Nawaz to respect vote, says in 2023 someone else is being presented as an angel

Bilawal said “Raiwind is trying to create an impression that all is good for them"

Bilawal urges Nawaz to respect vote, says in 2023 someone else is being presented as an angel

Bilawal said “Raiwind is trying to create an impression that all is good for them

Bilawal urges Nawaz to respect vote, says in 2023 someone else is being presented as an angel

Bilawal said “Raiwind is trying to create an impression that all is good for them

Accept three points so that 'six points' aren't repeated, warns MQM-P

Party leaders PPP has taken over every department unconstitutionally; no one can occupy Karachi

PPP aims to secure anti-PML-N votes in Punjab, says Sanaullah

PPP aims to secure anti-PML-N votes in Punjab, says Sanaullah

Faisal Kareem Kundi expresses concern over rigging in PTI's intra-party elections

Faisal Kareem Kundi expresses concern over rigging in PTI's intra-party elections

Bilawal assails bureaucrats in Islamabad for being unmindful of real public issues

PPP chief says they neither do their own work nor let others do theirs

Bilawal wants paradigm shift in politics

Says old politics of hatred and revenge is detrimental to country’s youth

Abdul Quddus Bizenjo to join PPP

Abdul Quddus Bizenjo to join Pakistan People's Party

Zardari nominates Nayyar Bukhari PPP's secretary general

Zardari nominates Nayyar Bukhari PPPP's secretary general

Mayor opens Karachi's first zip line at Safari Park

Mayor opens Karachi's first zip line at Safari Park

Anti-PPP electoral alliance brewing in Sindh

Anti-PPP electoral alliance brewing in Sindh

After Bilawal, Zardari also leaving for Dubai

After Bilawal, Zardari also leaving for Dubai

PPP dispels reports of Bilawal-Zardari rift

PPP dispels reports of Bilawal-Zardari rift

PPP secretary general Farhatullah Babar relinquishes position

He retains role in human rights cell of the PPP

No plans for electoral alliance with PTI, says PPP

No plans for electoral alliance with PTI, says PPP

GDA to actively participate in elections: Pir Pagara

GDA to actively participate in elections: Pir Pagara

People's rule will be established after winning Feb 8 elections: Bilawal

PPP chief urges old politicians to retire, says it is youth's demand to rid themselves of old guard

Dar rejects speculations about getting rid of 18th Amendment

Says PML-N, PPP had signed Charter of Democracy for reforms in judicial and civil-military affairs

Bilawal counts inflation, poverty as his rivals in elections

He says inflation and poverty, rather than any political party, are his adversaries

Bilawal sees solution to ills in departure from outmoded politics

He promises to fulfill unfinished mission of Shaheed leaders

Bilawal calls for paradigm shift in politics

Bilawal Bhutto seeks empowerment of young generation

Senate session adjourned

Lack of quorum compelled Senate Deputy Chairman to adjourn session

Bilawal to visit KP to address party conventions

Bilawal to visit KP to address party conventions

PPP ready for any kind of 'pitch', Nawaz should focus on Punjab: Bilawal

Says his party never enjoyed a level playing field

PPP unfazed by rival alliances, says Zardari

We are followers of Zulfikar Ali Bhutto and believe in people's power: Zardari

In run-up to polls, PPP chief Bilawal Bhutto embarks on KP visit on Nov 16

In run-up to polls, PPP chief Bilawal Bhutto embarks on KP visit on Nov 16